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		<title>By: Matt Horns</title>
		<link>http://oceanpark.com/blog/2010/07/competent-to-stand-trial/comment-page-1/#comment-917</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt Horns</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jan 2012 08:27:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Diet has a huge effect on brain chemistry. In many cases nutrition has a bigger influence than medications. Simply eating the right food has cured many mentally ill victims.</description>
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		<title>By: Matt Horns</title>
		<link>http://oceanpark.com/blog/2010/07/competent-to-stand-trial/comment-page-1/#comment-916</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt Horns</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jan 2012 08:22:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mental illness is one of the most devastating things that can can happen to an individual and to his or her family. It&#039;s also one of the most expensive human conditions we deal with. When mental patients refuse to take their psych meds
 the cost to society (housing, medical, dental, law enforcement, petty crimes, violence, et cet.) skyrockets to a level that we cannot afford. This is a tragedy with no good outcome. We need to accept the fact that some people are beyond our help.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mental illness is one of the most devastating things that can can happen to an individual and to his or her family. It&#8217;s also one of the most expensive human conditions we deal with. When mental patients refuse to take their psych meds<br />
 the cost to society (housing, medical, dental, law enforcement, petty crimes, violence, et cet.) skyrockets to a level that we cannot afford. This is a tragedy with no good outcome. We need to accept the fact that some people are beyond our help.</p>
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		<title>By: Dennis Allard</title>
		<link>http://oceanpark.com/blog/2010/07/competent-to-stand-trial/comment-page-1/#comment-757</link>
		<dc:creator>Dennis Allard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Mar 2011 16:18:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>After a long period of recalcitrance where my brother stayed off his meds, he seems to be on meds now.  For the first time in a year or two I am able to have a fairly normal conversation with him (by phone).  He remains in a psychiatric hospital.  Unfortunately, while in the hospital, he allegedly made some threatening phone calls (from the hospital!) to various old acquaintances so he now faces new charges.

Until about a month or two ago, it was impossible to have a normal phone conversation with him.  He would dominate the call, not listen, rant and rave.  He totally rejected another old friend who had wanted to visit him.  Etc.  But over the past few weeks, something has improved.  He told me he is on meds now and that they give him ones that dissolve quickly so he cannot &quot;cheek&quot; them.  He has become very stable and I have had a couple of calm conversations with him.  I have not asked him about the new charges or tried to visit him yet.  I was too burned out to these past many months to follow his case closely or attempt fight the system, and he must not have been on meds or not on the right ones, as evidenced by his actions and behavior.  We also have a 93 year old mother in an expensive assisted living home, most of the cost of which I cover since her social security only pays for about one fourth of the expense.  I want to keep her comfortable in her final years.  So that is also an issue in my life, since I don&#039;t have much money left for other pursuits.  I&#039;m not complaining, I&#039;m just giving some context.

If my brother remains stable, at some point I will put some energy into following his case and visiting him again.  In the mean time I have my own life to live.  Thanks for writing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After a long period of recalcitrance where my brother stayed off his meds, he seems to be on meds now.  For the first time in a year or two I am able to have a fairly normal conversation with him (by phone).  He remains in a psychiatric hospital.  Unfortunately, while in the hospital, he allegedly made some threatening phone calls (from the hospital!) to various old acquaintances so he now faces new charges.</p>
<p>Until about a month or two ago, it was impossible to have a normal phone conversation with him.  He would dominate the call, not listen, rant and rave.  He totally rejected another old friend who had wanted to visit him.  Etc.  But over the past few weeks, something has improved.  He told me he is on meds now and that they give him ones that dissolve quickly so he cannot &#8220;cheek&#8221; them.  He has become very stable and I have had a couple of calm conversations with him.  I have not asked him about the new charges or tried to visit him yet.  I was too burned out to these past many months to follow his case closely or attempt fight the system, and he must not have been on meds or not on the right ones, as evidenced by his actions and behavior.  We also have a 93 year old mother in an expensive assisted living home, most of the cost of which I cover since her social security only pays for about one fourth of the expense.  I want to keep her comfortable in her final years.  So that is also an issue in my life, since I don&#8217;t have much money left for other pursuits.  I&#8217;m not complaining, I&#8217;m just giving some context.</p>
<p>If my brother remains stable, at some point I will put some energy into following his case and visiting him again.  In the mean time I have my own life to live.  Thanks for writing.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://oceanpark.com/blog/2010/07/competent-to-stand-trial/comment-page-1/#comment-755</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Mar 2011 06:23:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dennis, is there any update on your brother?  How long will he be incarcerated for?  My heart goes out to you.  I wish I knew how we can wrest control of our society from people so lacking in compassion or how we can fix a system that has failed so many in such desperate need.  It is truly heartbreaking, but your efforts to publish your brother&#039;s story are heroic for having made people aware of just how dire our collective circumstances become when indifference, ignorance, and incompetence are institutionalized as they have been in America.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dennis, is there any update on your brother?  How long will he be incarcerated for?  My heart goes out to you.  I wish I knew how we can wrest control of our society from people so lacking in compassion or how we can fix a system that has failed so many in such desperate need.  It is truly heartbreaking, but your efforts to publish your brother&#8217;s story are heroic for having made people aware of just how dire our collective circumstances become when indifference, ignorance, and incompetence are institutionalized as they have been in America.</p>
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		<title>By: Dennis Allard</title>
		<link>http://oceanpark.com/blog/2010/07/competent-to-stand-trial/comment-page-1/#comment-696</link>
		<dc:creator>Dennis Allard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Jan 2011 08:06:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When delusional my brother damaged some property so he is incarcerated.  So there is no struggle for me now.  He is off the street and has a roof over his head, albeit one provided by the court and prison system rather than treatment by the medical system.

Were things as simple for others with mental illness.

As the shooting of Gabriell Giffords in Tuscon shows, a mentally disturbed person who is left to fall between the cracks can end up going totally insane and in some cases harm other people. Futhermore, the afflicted person also suffers from the mental illness since their thinking becomes tortured by obsessions, fears, and delusions.  They are left untreated.  They suffer. And sometimes society suffers.



In the case of Jared Loughner, his mental illness was evident to many yet that mental illness was given the right to rule his mind and degenerate.  An article in the Washington Post, January 9, 2011, by David A. Fahrenthold, Sari Horwitz and Amy Gardner illustrates this point.  According to that article, Loughner was attending classes at Tucson&#039;s Pima Community College.  School administrators ignored warnings of his fellow students and his teachers that his behavior was threatening.  According the article, the administrators were reported to have said, &quot;He hasn&#039;t taken any action to hurt anyone. He hasn&#039;t provoked anybody. He hasn&#039;t brought any weapons to class.... We&#039;ll just wait until he takes that next step.&quot;.



But what can a school do?  Should school administrators reject a student just because he manifests quirky behavior or some fellow student makes a complaint?  To answer that question, we needto realize the the issue is much larger than what happens in schools. Consider the case of the Virginia Tech Massacre in 2007 .  Seung-Hui Cho, who killed 32 people, had been diagnosed with mental illness long before enrolling at Virginia Tech.  Yet, due to federal privacy laws, Virginia Tech was not informed of Seung-Hui Cho&#039;s diagnosis at the time he enrolled!



On a daily basis, in Los Angeles, police officers do not detain or transport mentally ill people to a hosptial even when they have been reported to be making threats unless they are deemed &quot;a danger to themselves or others or severely disabled&quot;.  The bar for arresting disturbed people or for placing them in treatment is very high. Often, after being reported to police, a mentally ill person who was harassing someone will simply be taken to some other part of town and dropped off.  Or taken to an emergency room where they will be given some pills then turned loose.



It goes from bad to absurd.  Some scientologists have been known to try to convince mentally ill people to not take antipsychotic medicine.



In my opinion, when a mentally ill person has gotten to the the point they are delusional and making threats, there needs to be a fair judicial process, with due process, that requires the afflicted person to take medication, involuntarily if necessary.  That may sound harsh. But, in fact, it is more humane than letting the mental illness dominate the life of the afflicted person and people the afflicted person comes in contact with on a daily basis.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When delusional my brother damaged some property so he is incarcerated.  So there is no struggle for me now.  He is off the street and has a roof over his head, albeit one provided by the court and prison system rather than treatment by the medical system.</p>
<p>Were things as simple for others with mental illness.</p>
<p>As the shooting of Gabriell Giffords in Tuscon shows, a mentally disturbed person who is left to fall between the cracks can end up going totally insane and in some cases harm other people. Futhermore, the afflicted person also suffers from the mental illness since their thinking becomes tortured by obsessions, fears, and delusions.  They are left untreated.  They suffer. And sometimes society suffers.</p>
<p>In the case of Jared Loughner, his mental illness was evident to many yet that mental illness was given the right to rule his mind and degenerate.  An article in the Washington Post, January 9, 2011, by David A. Fahrenthold, Sari Horwitz and Amy Gardner illustrates this point.  According to that article, Loughner was attending classes at Tucson&#8217;s Pima Community College.  School administrators ignored warnings of his fellow students and his teachers that his behavior was threatening.  According the article, the administrators were reported to have said, &#8220;He hasn&#8217;t taken any action to hurt anyone. He hasn&#8217;t provoked anybody. He hasn&#8217;t brought any weapons to class&#8230;. We&#8217;ll just wait until he takes that next step.&#8221;.</p>
<p>But what can a school do?  Should school administrators reject a student just because he manifests quirky behavior or some fellow student makes a complaint?  To answer that question, we needto realize the the issue is much larger than what happens in schools. Consider the case of the Virginia Tech Massacre in 2007 .  Seung-Hui Cho, who killed 32 people, had been diagnosed with mental illness long before enrolling at Virginia Tech.  Yet, due to federal privacy laws, Virginia Tech was not informed of Seung-Hui Cho&#8217;s diagnosis at the time he enrolled!</p>
<p>On a daily basis, in Los Angeles, police officers do not detain or transport mentally ill people to a hosptial even when they have been reported to be making threats unless they are deemed &#8220;a danger to themselves or others or severely disabled&#8221;.  The bar for arresting disturbed people or for placing them in treatment is very high. Often, after being reported to police, a mentally ill person who was harassing someone will simply be taken to some other part of town and dropped off.  Or taken to an emergency room where they will be given some pills then turned loose.</p>
<p>It goes from bad to absurd.  Some scientologists have been known to try to convince mentally ill people to not take antipsychotic medicine.</p>
<p>In my opinion, when a mentally ill person has gotten to the the point they are delusional and making threats, there needs to be a fair judicial process, with due process, that requires the afflicted person to take medication, involuntarily if necessary.  That may sound harsh. But, in fact, it is more humane than letting the mental illness dominate the life of the afflicted person and people the afflicted person comes in contact with on a daily basis.</p>
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		<title>By: ak2190</title>
		<link>http://oceanpark.com/blog/2010/07/competent-to-stand-trial/comment-page-1/#comment-695</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Jan 2011 19:55:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just want to say that I really admire you for all that you are doing to help your brother and to show people what devastation mental illness causes. I feel so much compassion for your brother. I am an RN working at a Mental Health Institute and every day I wish there was some way to bring peace of mind to all the individuals out there suffering from this illness. I can only imagine how hard it must be to struggle every day against something no one else has to deal with. It makes me so angry that the system is so broken that patients fall through the cracks all the time. I wish you and your brother the very best! Don&#039;t give up on being there for him!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just want to say that I really admire you for all that you are doing to help your brother and to show people what devastation mental illness causes. I feel so much compassion for your brother. I am an RN working at a Mental Health Institute and every day I wish there was some way to bring peace of mind to all the individuals out there suffering from this illness. I can only imagine how hard it must be to struggle every day against something no one else has to deal with. It makes me so angry that the system is so broken that patients fall through the cracks all the time. I wish you and your brother the very best! Don&#8217;t give up on being there for him!</p>
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		<title>By: blue</title>
		<link>http://oceanpark.com/blog/2010/07/competent-to-stand-trial/comment-page-1/#comment-659</link>
		<dc:creator>blue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Dec 2010 21:14:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>please stay strong for your brother...without you, hope is lost and he will most certainly fall...don&#039;t let that happen. stand in front of anyone who will listen and tell them your brother&#039;s story.  go to washington if you have to. i don&#039;t live in the US, and i live in a country with socialized medicine/medical care but your story is not yours alone. so many, armed with nothing to fight the paperwork, the illness, the state....

please take care of yourself and your family and friends, but do not ever close the chapter on your brother...this is a book, whose ending doesn&#039;t have to be now. this might be a long chapter, and one which is difficult - but this chapter will end. and when this one does, hopefully the next one will be filled with more happiness and more peace. 

your brother does want to be well. and he needs you to act as his angel - for now - until he can find the peace of mind he so deserves. 

my heart and prayers are for you and for Tony.
♥</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>please stay strong for your brother&#8230;without you, hope is lost and he will most certainly fall&#8230;don&#8217;t let that happen. stand in front of anyone who will listen and tell them your brother&#8217;s story.  go to washington if you have to. i don&#8217;t live in the US, and i live in a country with socialized medicine/medical care but your story is not yours alone. so many, armed with nothing to fight the paperwork, the illness, the state&#8230;.</p>
<p>please take care of yourself and your family and friends, but do not ever close the chapter on your brother&#8230;this is a book, whose ending doesn&#8217;t have to be now. this might be a long chapter, and one which is difficult &#8211; but this chapter will end. and when this one does, hopefully the next one will be filled with more happiness and more peace. </p>
<p>your brother does want to be well. and he needs you to act as his angel &#8211; for now &#8211; until he can find the peace of mind he so deserves. </p>
<p>my heart and prayers are for you and for Tony.<br />
♥</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Nov 2010 02:10:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now that I have read the whole thing. I wish your brother, his friends and family all the best and absolutely hope that one day your brother will get better and realize what kind of loving people surround him.

All the best to you , continue being that strong. I have respect for that.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now that I have read the whole thing. I wish your brother, his friends and family all the best and absolutely hope that one day your brother will get better and realize what kind of loving people surround him.</p>
<p>All the best to you , continue being that strong. I have respect for that.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Sep 2010 01:26:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for writing this series.  I stumbled on it today while searching the internet for better ways to organize the data accumulated &#039;helping&#039; a mentally ill brother.  I walk a similar path as you do.  My brother is about as old as yours and has been ill since ~1978.   In the last several years I have taken up the supporting role from other siblings, rescuing impounded vehicle &amp; possessions left in police custody, providing case history to mental health workers, trying to help him find a place to stay, calling 911 when he threatens suicide, and providing monetary support..., always asking myself, &quot;Just how much help should I, or can I provide?&quot;  

I particularly liked the well written letter to the Pasadena Superior Court that describes the illness using the Invasion of the Body Snatchers analogy, and that during manic episodes, it is the body snatcher that has control.    I will be thinking of that next time I get a call from him where he&#039;s not doing so well, and my understanding &amp; patience is running low.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for writing this series.  I stumbled on it today while searching the internet for better ways to organize the data accumulated &#8216;helping&#8217; a mentally ill brother.  I walk a similar path as you do.  My brother is about as old as yours and has been ill since ~1978.   In the last several years I have taken up the supporting role from other siblings, rescuing impounded vehicle &amp; possessions left in police custody, providing case history to mental health workers, trying to help him find a place to stay, calling 911 when he threatens suicide, and providing monetary support&#8230;, always asking myself, &#8220;Just how much help should I, or can I provide?&#8221;  </p>
<p>I particularly liked the well written letter to the Pasadena Superior Court that describes the illness using the Invasion of the Body Snatchers analogy, and that during manic episodes, it is the body snatcher that has control.    I will be thinking of that next time I get a call from him where he&#8217;s not doing so well, and my understanding &amp; patience is running low.</p>
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		<title>By: Lydia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lydia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Sep 2010 19:58:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My only comment is that I am just one more person in the same boat as you. I have a mentally ill adult son who has been able to fly under the radar. He has very similar behavioral manifestations as your brother, although with more violent outbursts.  I have decided that we are living in an age whereby the kind of decent, humane help these individuals need is just going to be denied period. Unless you have a compliant, wealthy and medically insured mentally ill individual, you need to stop expecting that help is on the way. Of course, most mentally ill folks, with delusions and hallucinations aren&#039;t wealthy, don&#039;t work so have no insurance and for the most part lack the insight into their medical condition.  The way they are treated it is no wonder that they also lack trust in the system to ever help them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My only comment is that I am just one more person in the same boat as you. I have a mentally ill adult son who has been able to fly under the radar. He has very similar behavioral manifestations as your brother, although with more violent outbursts.  I have decided that we are living in an age whereby the kind of decent, humane help these individuals need is just going to be denied period. Unless you have a compliant, wealthy and medically insured mentally ill individual, you need to stop expecting that help is on the way. Of course, most mentally ill folks, with delusions and hallucinations aren&#8217;t wealthy, don&#8217;t work so have no insurance and for the most part lack the insight into their medical condition.  The way they are treated it is no wonder that they also lack trust in the system to ever help them.</p>
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